Visions for Vacancies: What Should Replace Walmart?

The new Walmart Supercenter in Oakwood Commons will replace the store in Severance Town Center. What would you like to see in the space?

First Interstate Properties, the company developing the former Oakwood Country Club, that Walmart has signed on with the Oakwood Commons project. A Walmart Supercenter is projected to open there in the summer of 2013.

But as one store opens, another will close just about a mile down the road.

Walmart confirmed that the store in , operated by Pine Tree Commercial Realty, will eventually close.

We want to know — what would you like to see in the space? Tell us in the comments section below.

mjc1801 March 27, 2012 at 05:09 PM
I'm sure we will lose Home Depot as well, so my thought is to bury the whole area of the current mall and return the area into a farm like it once was, minus the mansion. Since S Euclid is killing the green space that once was Oakwood Country Club the people of Cleveland Heights can grow massive amounts of Vegetables and Fruits. We could have our own Farmers Market in the Heights.
Tifanny Barnes March 27, 2012 at 05:26 PM
Or, better yet. Let's launch the recall campaign from there!
Nina Woolf March 27, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Shutting down every entertainment venue in the area won't solve the problem. Channeling it into something positive, however, may help. I'm in favor of bowling alley / Dave&Buster's idea -- those places usually take up a lot of room in the building and would bring more people into the area. Any place with family-oriented activities should work well!
Nina Woolf March 27, 2012 at 06:05 PM
Love the personal attacks, those are always classy! How about productive input, Ms. Barnes?
Ralph Solonitz March 27, 2012 at 06:09 PM
good one.
Ralph Solonitz March 27, 2012 at 06:12 PM
action and words have consequences...our city representatives sold us out, what kind words shall we put on this travesty to our community and planet. A walmart has never added to the quality of any community...ever!
Will Goldstein March 27, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Great idea!
Ralph Solonitz March 27, 2012 at 06:18 PM
recall the incompetent representatives...new york city created central park out of urban decay...we do the opposite.
Will Goldstein March 27, 2012 at 06:20 PM
I love the idea for a bowling area - maybe that would also attract some decent food establishments to the Severance area. There are so many great walkable areas in CH, but nothing worth visiting in Severance Center, which is the only commercial district we can reach by foot. I for one would love to see something other than IHOP and Burger King. How about we work on taking Severance Center up a notch instead of down? Make it a classy area to visit - restaurants, playgrounds, walking paths, smaller local shops, farmers markets - instead of just filling space with low end merchandise? Give us something to visit!!
Nina Woolf March 27, 2012 at 07:03 PM
I agree with you to an extent - however, let be honest here - residents do their best talking through voting. I'm not exactly sure which city government you're talking about that "sold us out" but if you're referring to South Euclid then obviously the majority of voters didn't agree with you since re-zoning passed -- too late to be angry about this now! And to take this point further -- how many people do you know (including yourself) that feel strongly enough about the whole Oakwood/Walmart situation to never shop at Walmart?
B.C. March 27, 2012 at 07:26 PM
How about herding all of the deer in the Heights area and making a "Deer Sanctuary"! Only Kidding, but green space would be excellent! My vote would be protected garden plots for residents that won't allow the deer to eat all of the produce, of course with running water available. Maybe some of the Clev. Hts. recycled leaf humus as a garden base.
Ralph Solonitz March 27, 2012 at 07:27 PM
Sold out by both cities. Stupid idea to destroy pristine parks to put down concrete that will only bring down Severance mall.
Garry Kanter March 27, 2012 at 07:33 PM
I do not believe there was any non-biased discussion of the merits of the rezoning in SE. As soon as the developer announced his intentions, the entire council "partnered" with him. Henceforth, any commentary unfavorable to the rezoning was the "opposition", rather than citizens with a different opinion. The referendum was *not* a vote only on the merits of the rezoning. To a varying degree for each voter it was a vote on the sanctity of the council's action. About 4,250 SE voters passed the referendum. The property in question is affectively in Cleveland Heights. It's literally in the CH-UH school district. CH and UH voters were *not* represented or able to vote. CH property owners adjacent to the property had no voice. And the 4,250 received $500k of misinformation and character assassination: "COSTS IS NOTHING!!", "CREATES 700 JOBS!!", "Crawl back under your rocks..." The whole thing stunk from the start. No community welcomes Walmart in the fashion the SE council did. Something wasn't kosher. And the rezoning itself was unconstitutional. No report ordered by council, or balloring on election day can change that - see California's Prop 8 rulings.
Nina Woolf March 27, 2012 at 07:50 PM
"To a varying degree for each voter it was a vote on the sanctity of the council's action." It passed - is it fair to say the majority of voting residents were not as dissatisfied as you are with local government? Furthermore - the referendum was in SE, dragging CH and UH goverment is a moot point. Getting back to the topic of the forum - while it's too late to throw punches in that battle, what can be done to improve Severance going forward!
Garry Kanter March 27, 2012 at 07:54 PM
I have not mentioned the obvious failings of the CH, UH or county governments. I said that the CH and UH citizens were unrepresented and could not vote. I also said the discussion in SE was biased from the start. And I said that the referendum was not merely a yes/no vote on the rezoning. It's only over when we quit.
Akiva Feinstein March 27, 2012 at 08:15 PM
<b>How about a Super Marc's?</b> Marc's closeouts and everyday good deals on food CAN compete with Super Walmart!! They could also feature in addition to the value grocery stuff a lot of locally grown produce, kosher, healthy food and some other ethnic options that are not found at WalMart? Let's think big!!
Ralph Solonitz March 27, 2012 at 08:35 PM
How about a toxic waste dump?
Will Goldstein March 27, 2012 at 08:42 PM
And now I remember why I rarely comment on discussion boards.
Ralph Solonitz March 27, 2012 at 08:45 PM
I agree Will...and I'm done .
LS March 28, 2012 at 12:52 AM
completely agree. we are right across the street and would hate to watch it go completely and absolutely downhill. no more discount stores, no more big box shops.. local, local, local! (even though my above comment mentions the hospitals taking over, they would still need places for lunch, shopping, etc. the possibilities are endless!)
Vicki Spalding Rosales March 28, 2012 at 03:14 AM
There are a lot of people in the area with limited incomes & transportation. I am guessing they will miss the Wal-Mart at Severance just as much as people have missed the Marc's at Cedar Center. I think there's enough room with all of the vacancies for all of the ideas!
Garry Kanter March 28, 2012 at 08:17 AM
The reality, despite what the mayor said, is much bleaker. Maybe we should be discussing what happens when the spot becomes vacant?
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Glinda Smith March 28, 2012 at 01:23 PM
I would like to see a mixed use development - apartments, office, retail in a park-like walkable setting. I think there is a market for new apartment buildings. I know we have lots of old buildings in CH and lots of unsold condos - that's not what I am talking about. I'm talking about new apartment buildings will all of the amenties people want in the 21st century like The Province being built in Kent. The Province is geared toward college students and some of these buildings could be geared towards CWRU students, but certainly not all of them. Here's what they are doing in Kent: http://kent.livetheprovince.com/
Tara Pesta April 01, 2012 at 07:50 PM
I thought that's what we were discussing - the page is titled "Vision for Vacancies."
Garry Kanter April 01, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Tara Pesta, good point. I meant once it becomes vacant, and for a lot of reasons, remains vacant.
Dan April 02, 2012 at 04:41 AM
That is a great idea. Can I drive the tractor?
Patty Young April 03, 2012 at 09:15 PM
Ralph Solonitz April 05, 2012 at 01:14 PM
an indoor hydroponic greenhouse that could be owned by Dave's supermarket...the cost of preserving and delivering fresh food will be passed down to the consumer...us. this is the future for sustainable living. Not more development of useless concrete. Food and water shortages will be the cause of civilization collapse. Humans are short sighted...If you are at all serious about solving real problems...watch this National Geographic special ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHufiHAbfD4&feature=share
JanNiekamp June 13, 2012 at 01:14 PM
I agree, Cleveland needs an Ikea, it would bring more jobs. Might seem crazy, but, what about a water park,lol.


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